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ah, I was wondering how long it would take for the condescending tone to creep back into your posts.I don't have to figure it out, my last Vista installation was good and solid. My new Win 7 is faster.
ah, I would say its not condensing if it

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ah, I would say its not condensing if it

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For FSX users of Win7, BEWARE:With Win7Beta and RC, you cannot simply use the Scenery menu to "Add areas". Goodness knows what's been broken, but you have to go through a weird incantation to get it to work. When adding a scenery folder to FSX you would normally choose the folder and click OK: voila, the scenery would be added to FSX. But under Win7 clicking the OK button just opens the folder: the scenery does not get added to FSX. The solution is this. Before clicking OK, copy the full folder name etc from the box. Then click OK and paste the location back in to the box. Now click anywhere in the white area of the folder list and FSX will recognise the scenery. Very strange.More generally: I have used Vista 64SP1, Win7Beta and now Win7RC. In my experience, a clean installation of Win7 runs fewer services than a clean installation of Vista 64 and the overall snappiness of Win7 is faster than Vista 64. That is NOT the same as saying that individual applications run any faster: I don't think there's an appreciable difference. But the overall experience of using the OS - quicker boot times, faster UI response, prettier and (to me) slightly more intuitive UI, much quicker shut-down times, more reliable use of sleep/hibernate on notebooks and so on - is significantly superior. Further, my own look at Win7's internal operations - while extremely amateur on my part - shows that it uses fewer resources than Vista. By this I mean that in any comparable situation (same applications running etc) there is generally more RAM available in Win 7 than Vista. I think Win7 is likely to be a good thing: not a complete revolution, perhaps: but, for me, a worthwhile update.Tim

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Adding a scenery library is actually easier than all that.As noted on page two of this thread by Oerden:"To add a new scenery file to scenery library, choose file of scenery, click OK button, after this just right click on some emtpy place on menu and it will be ok. "I right click in the scenery list area.I'm not sure what the problem is.


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I am having a weird problem with Windows 7 and FSX. not sure what the problem is as everyone else seems to have no problems. I installed Windows 7 RC build 7100 and installed FSX then SP1 and SP2, FSX SP1 worked fine, was able to go through menus and look at demo flight in the getting started section, but since I have installed SP2 I now get a hardware warning when I load up the game that is basically telling me my graphics card is not upto scratch. I guess its not detecting the graphics card properly for some reason. I have an ATI Radeon 4850 and had also installed the latest ATI radeon drivers for Windows 7, Catalyst 9.5. Anyone else had these problems and if not anything I could do.

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I am having a weird problem with Windows 7 and FSX. not sure what the problem is as everyone else seems to have no problems. I installed Windows 7 RC build 7100 and installed FSX then SP1 and SP2, FSX SP1 worked fine, was able to go through menus and look at demo flight in the getting started section, but since I have installed SP2 I now get a hardware warning when I load up the game that is basically telling me my graphics card is not upto scratch. I guess its not detecting the graphics card properly for some reason. I have an ATI Radeon 4850 and had also installed the latest ATI radeon drivers for Windows 7, Catalyst 9.5. Anyone else had these problems and if not anything I could do.
Its ok i found out what the problem was, seems like it didnt like running when i had it on extended desktop as i had one display going through the TV and one from the monitor, once the TV was set to Clone it worked ok, might be handy though incase someone has the same problem in the future

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Guest desertkev

Great tip Flyingscool, another smart person from Littleton.. :( Please go tell the guy at Electronics Plus that he should stock more math coprocessors for the FSX community...

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Tip to get the Reference screen to display text instead of black blank screen disable IE8 and the black screen will go away.Ken S

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Quote: 'My bet is people seeing 'highly' better had a borked install to begin with.. and/or they simply dumped the bad tweaks they had initially set up and did not realize it. I can verify that was true with a few I have worked with. After getting back on their original OS we got rid of the tweaks that were killing their perf to begin with..'.Nick_N,You are a VERY insightful, if not just very PC savy, person. My sentiments exactly. They (you know who you are) don't always KNOW, or want to 'give themselfs away' by fessing up to their 'problem' (self distructive behavior). HA. I read the whole thread. By keeping an 'ear' out for 'voids' (and reading between the lines), it does actually make for very amusing reading. Will there me 'more'. I GUESS! Hype, slurr, guess, CTD, etc. On and on.. :( Chuck BNapamule

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All I know so far is that for years I have been testing XP with FSX, various drivers, chipset drivers, service packs etc.. And I managed to get the right ballance. I saved a flight and used that for my reference. When ever I benched FSX it was always on a clean install and with bare minimum services running, O&O'd constantly etc.. At my particular bench mark mark I was getting 40 ish FPS and was nice and smooth.Now with Win7 X64 under the same standards..........O&O etc... I am able to get late 60's in my bench mark. I have two HDD's, one with XP and one with Win7 X64. So I can simply boot into either and compare within a few minutes.As everyone is saying, so far, the only problem I have encountered seems to be the scenery one.If I start to see the performance I am getting with Win7 dropping over the next few months then I may go back to XP..................that was the problem with service packs and updates for XP, they decreased FSX peformance.

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I recently switched from Vista x64 to Win7 RC. Some things like browsing the start menu are a little bit snappier, but overall I couldn't tell the difference between Vista and Win7. The biggest differences are in the user interface with the new task bar, some new control panel applets and more methods for managing and switching between multiple open windows.Framerates remain virtually unchanged as well. The problem with crackling audio when flying over autogen forests is gone, however it's possible a clean install of Vista would have fixed it too.


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All I know so far is that for years I have been testing XP with FSX, various drivers, chipset drivers, service packs etc.. And I managed to get the right ballance. I saved a flight and used that for my reference. When ever I benched FSX it was always on a clean install and with bare minimum services running, O&O'd constantly etc.. At my particular bench mark mark I was getting 40 ish FPS and was nice and smooth.Now with Win7 X64 under the same standards..........O&O etc... I am able to get late 60's in my bench mark. I have two HDD's, one with XP and one with Win7 X64. So I can simply boot into either and compare within a few minutes.As everyone is saying, so far, the only problem I have encountered seems to be the scenery one.If I start to see the performance I am getting with Win7 dropping over the next few months then I may go back to XP..................that was the problem with service packs and updates for XP, they decreased FSX peformance.
No disrespect intended but all that show me is that it's a meaningless benchmark. Does the difference remain if you use weather?. What about full cloud cover? How about low and slow versus high and fast? How about with normal services running in bg? Different a/c with different levels of complexity?All I see is that with THAT benchmark, you get specific results.I can bench my system well over 4ghz but it will not run FSX - so much for that benchmark.Point is, set up multiple scenarios that test various conditions and stress FSX differently - then make your comparisons. If the difference is relatively constant, you might have something.Vic

 

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Isn't all this just semantics? The majority of people are reporting better playability on Windows 7 across many games, so we might as well just leave it as "Yes...Windows 7 is better than Vista. Case closed"

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No disrespect intended but all that show me is that it's a meaningless benchmark. Does the difference remain if you use weather?. What about full cloud cover? How about low and slow versus high and fast? How about with normal services running in bg? Different a/c with different levels of complexity?All I see is that with THAT benchmark, you get specific results.I can bench my system well over 4ghz but it will not run FSX - so much for that benchmark.Point is, set up multiple scenarios that test various conditions and stress FSX differently - then make your comparisons. If the difference is relatively constant, you might have something.Vic
Hello...I do understand what you are saying with the multiple scenarios. BUT after benching various drivers etc.. when I got to one that gave me higher figures in THAT benchmark I found that the sim was running smoothly in ALL scenerios that I tried. So that tells you something about THAT benchmark does it not? I have found the same with Win7 so far. In all of the scenarios I have tested so far it is running faster and smoother. The idea of a bechmark is just that.........................its a bench mark. All other testing can be done after this point.

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I installed W7 64 RC1 on a brand new HD then installed FSX with acceleration. I may have noticed a slight improvement over Vista 64 but that could be due to a new install. The main problem with W7, which makes FSX unusable for me, is the constant CTD when accessing the menus in game by clicking the right mouse button. This CTD is reportedly caused by 'uiautomationcore.dll' and has been discussed in the Avsim FSX CTD Forum and other W7 forums. I keep checking for a solution but the forum threads seemed to have dried up with no solutions forthcoming or even a response or acknowledgement from the W7 devs that I have found anyway. I like to have the latest OS, even if I don't need it, but this is a show stopper as far as W7 is concerned for me. I'm sure lots of people don't see this problem but I'm one of the many that it does affect. I'm hoping that someone will reply with a solution to this CTD that I've missed.Terry


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