Don't miss this one: a NEW FSX optimizer

[irocx 292]

Gizmo, any chance you could upload your app to the Avsim library? Many can't seem to get a download slot at RS. Thanks.

[Guest harryrupert]

Glad to hear it worked for you :) Heres a LINK to the file mirror at my own RS account Im Omzig here but else where in the FS community im know as Gizmo,you may have seen or even used a few of my repaints (infact i have one in the Avsim AVSIM Reader's Choice Awards Best freeware other VH-AIF HD repaint for the carenado C152)I havent tryed this tweak myself in FSX (although i've used it with other games)as im a DX10 flyer (made my own custom water normals for DX10) but i'll be giving it a look in DX9 now that Noel has posted a glowing review CheersGizmo

I have downloaded your file, 12.35 kb , obtained a Winrar extractor, however when I extract the file I get amessage that the archive is empty, I'm doing some silly I guess but don't know what! (could it be that my O/S is vista 64?)Hi Gizmo,Sorry to have bothered you the file i kept downloading wasn't complete, should be 166kb, as I have not got a premium a/c I will have to wait until I get download it properly.Thanks Harry

[rhodges 6]

Thanks Noel:Your suggestion on my FSX.cfg for not seeing "Unlimited" in the display was correct. My problem was that I had the "average framerate" edit and my assumption is that it replaced the "unlimited" text. I backed up what I had and let it rebuild fsx.cfg, and I got the "Unlimited" text. By a process of elimination I found that the "average" provisions was the culprit. My other findings were as follows:1. Of course when I let FSX startup rebuild by cfg file, I got the old FSX default flight. I had forgotten what kind of framerates were possible when nothing is complex in the middle of nowhere.2. I tried several limitations: (i.e. 20. 30, 40, 50, 60 etc.) . It definitely does work! 3. Apparently my system may not be quite as stable as yours, but it appears that I occasinally may cycle as much as ten above my limited setting. As you mentioned. "Rarely" I saw a spike above that. When set to 20, I do get cycling on between 20 and 30. Set at 30, cycling into the mid 30's etc. 4. Really, my performance was reasonably smooth before this implementation. However, I will accept all the help I can get, and this may make it even better. An added frame rate or two is always appreciated.Thanks again:RTH

[Gizmo 0]

Hey guys Glad your finding this app useful but i didnt code this i just found it while i was looking for something to curb my stuttering in Fallout3,i spyed Noels post about a frame limiter for FSX and it came to mind to suggest this appIf you cant get it my RS link try this Filefont MIRRORI havent tryed it myself in FSX as i fly in DX10 and have my system blanced and i dont want to rock the apple cart the only thing that sets my system off on a barrny is heavy clouds but this is due to ATI's drivers/hardware design combo for the 4870...i'll keep moaning at them via feedback to see if it will get fixed ;) Very interesting in reading all the feedback though anything that can help bring smoother simming is always a good thing in my book & if i come across anything for DX10 i'll be sure to post about itCheersGizmo

[Guest Nick_N]

Hey guys Glad your finding this app useful but i didnt code this i just found it while i was looking for something to curb my stuttering in Fallout3,i spyed Noels post about a frame limiter for FSX and it came to mind to suggest this appIf you cant get it my RS link try this Filefont MIRRORI havent tryed it myself in FSX as i fly in DX10 and have my system blanced and i dont want to rock the apple cart the only thing that sets my system off on a barrny is heavy clouds but this is due to ATI's drivers/hardware design combo for the 4870...i'll keep moaning at them via feedback to see if it will get fixed ;) Very interesting in reading all the feedback though anything that can help bring smoother simming is always a good thing in my book & if i come across anything for DX10 i'll be sure to post about itCheersGizmo

Regardless Gizmo.. thanks for introducing the tool and thanks to Noel for posting thisI have been using it while testing GEX EU with really hard hitting payware aircraft and there is a consistent defined positive difference. No longer is frame lock/scenery in combo trimmed but autogen and scenery complexity only, exactly what the application should display in perf/tuning behavior.it produces a TRUE linear result!This is an excellent findSince this allows FSX to be set to throw everything at the hardware but limit the issue cause by SP1/SP2 it certainly looks as if it is successfully solving a problem that has been around for almost 2 years

[victorwest2 0]

I've unzipped the rar file. What do I need to do now to install it?Thanks.Ah! I'm supposed to open the FPS_Limiter_Gui.jar file. But when I double click on it all it does is open up the program I used to open the rar file.

[Guest Nick_N]

I've unzipped the rar file. What do I need to do now to install it?Thanks.Ah! I'm supposed to open the FPS_Limiter_Gui.jar file. But when I double click on it all it does is open up the program I used to open the rar file.

============================================================This was introduced in another forumCredit goes to Gizmo and Noel for bringing to our attention This may be one of the all-time best tweaks to use however at this point testing is limited to a small number of usersDownload this toolhttp://rapidshare.com/files/205205148/FPS_Limiter_0.2.raror from herehttp://files.filefront.com/FPS+Limiter+02r...;/fileinfo.htmlUnrar/unzipBe aware that where you place the folder must remain or it will break its use and you will need to reconfigure the bat fileUSE:Run FPS_Limiter_GUI.jar and click SEARCH EXECUTABLEbrowse for and select FSX.exeset frame limit to 30 under MAXIMUM FPSClick CREATE BATOnce complete close the interface and use the created file: fsx.exe.limited.bat to start FSX (double click it)set frame lock to UNLIMTED in FSX and use the AG slider to tuneYou MUST have JAVA installed to use that interfacehttp://www.java.com/en/Now here is the deal... this attacks the UNLIMITED FRAME LOCK problem related to Vsync introduced by Aces in SP1/SP2. Instead of tuning the FRAME LOCK you will tune the AUTOGEN slider for smooth results where you are flying. Leave the FSX frame lock slider at UNLIMITED at all times. You can fine tune this app as well... I found 30 was the sweet spot for all occasions. I would suggest no less than 24 and no more than 30 but start with 30.FSX must always be started by clicking the created command line BAT file.. NOT the FSX desktop iconSee if this has a positive effect... especially you i7 peopleand try this WITHOUT the affinity mask setting in the config file The issue this tool attacks is the one introduced with SP1/SP2 whereby Vsync creates HI/LOW stammer in the frame rate. Using this tool as posted will allow the full priority of UNLIMITED to the application by the hardware but governs the frame rate stammer. ==============================================================

[jordanal 70]

Nick,How does this affect your nHancer setting recommendations? vSync for example. I realize nothing is concrete yet, but can you think of any changes off the top of your head?

[Guest Nick_N]

Nick,How does this affect your nHancer setting recommendations? vSync for example. I realize nothing is concrete yet, but can you think of any changes off the top of your head?

everything is EXACTLY the sameif there was any need to change driver settings.. I would have posted itVsync MUST be enabled or you will get image wiggle and tearingUse the autogen slider to fine tuneI do not know if this may effect the bufferpool suggestion.. it may since the priority to autogen seems to have been shifted. When I get some good sit-down time with this I will look into that. Right now the driver and FSX settings I use are exactly what I posted in the FSX tuning thread and I shift the autogen slider depending on the area/scenery/amount of treesSo far 'Very Dense' is as low as I have needed to go

[windycloud 30]

This is probably a silly question but does FS2004 benefit from this as well?Jason

[Guest napamule]

Joel,I did read orig post. Right away I noticed 'Omzig' is Gizmo backwards. Sharp eye, eh? Brain cells slider max right, with no limiter, on that one. And my name is 'Chuck', NOT Chucky (or Chuckie). Thank you very much.But seriously, I respect Nick_N's accessment, and I take it all back: moaijofglasdklfsfysdfladf (heehee). F key is for LIMITER FPS increase, NOT FSX's-got it!So, if your rig 'can't handle' Unlimited in FSX to start with, setting to 30 fps in LIMITER may just help to smooth things out, 'overall', and depending on auto-gen slider (the one that REALLY bogs FSX). I buy that. I don't dare, for example, use lens bloom, and turn off 'a/c shodow', and 'buildings shadow'. I get 20 fps.So, thanks Joel (and Gizmo) for giving us this applet (I owe you each a case..). I'm glad I came in here (skeptic that I am of those 'miracle' booster ('BS') utilitys and 'tweaks'). Now I go try it. I hope it will help FRAPS make smoother videos for me. That would be peachy. Cheers.Chuck BNapamulePS: NO I wouldn't EVEN think of using it with FS2004 / FS9. But, YOU could try it. Not me. Anyway, I get steady frames in FS9, so why bother.

[victorwest2 0]

Many thanks Nick. I found my problem was caused by not having Java properly installed. All fixed now.

[Guest Nick_N]

I have now confirmed that bufferpools and TBM should not be alteredMy systems run a 70000000 BP on the 8800GTX and a 100000000 on the GTX 285The QX system runs a 80 TBM and the i7 runs a 90 TBMBoth remain the same Removing BP caused surge/stammer over large amounts of forest trees especially in turns. So what ever you use now that is smooth, keep it locked there

[Noel 4,501]

@ Noel: If this is the question you were referring to in another thread, I am sorry I missed it. I am so busy right now with GEX Europe the only thing I have had time to do recently is post production images of GEX Europe over at Simforums in the EU thread there. I have not been forum surfing very much lately. Thank you for bringing this to our attention Noel. Bravo to you as well.I will get an in-depth look at the ins and outs of using it as soon as I can

Thanks, it was. I have been wondering about this (in threads from months if not years ago) when I realized a downstream limiter should stop surges coming out of the processing bed that negatively impact the generally superior performance that comes with UNLIMITED. I have used it for several of my typical flights and I am tickled pink. It seems to be doing what I had hoped. I flew the SuperMD80 pro from KPDX to CYVR in full ASX weather, 110 mile cloud vis a max density, water up, etc and while frames went down as low as 19 briefly in some areas it was ALWAYS smooth, and when processing load softened there was not hint of a surges or spikes. It was one of the most stable and smooth flights in this sort of flight environment that I've seen in a while. It is almost my only contribution to the simming world here, and I'm glad it seems to be working out. As far as I can tell, I don't think Giz had made the connection between the application and FSX, though he was definitely on track since he was seeking it for another application. When I googled for FPS limiters in the past the file was available to members of the X-plane forums. They must have been using it. What really puzzles me is why someone else in the FSX world didn't see this a while ago. I'm not sure when the app was first released.I do agree, there will be some machines that will benefit from this (the ones prone to surging/spiking). There may also be some more tuning you can do as in optimizing the BEST lock for the particular situation you are in by using the realtime lock control. That's a pretty cool idea and I'm glad it was implemented.Noel

[Noel 4,501]

Noel,Thanks for sharing the info. I played with the limiter quite a bit yesterday and I can confirm that it really does smooth things out when you run FSX at unlimited and then use the utility to lock the frames.

You are welcome Sarg. I haven't contributed much to the simming world and I have to feel good this theory I had that Omzig graciously responded to seems to be worth something. We are going to have FSX for a while it appears and I think it will have applicability to alot of machines. Have to look up the author . . .