Skins dissappear

[max303 2]

:( Stimmt! Alles gleich bis auf die GraKa (Nvidia GTX285 @ 1,79GB)Thx for the info. I will try with an old driver. Maybe... Best RegardsMartinLOWI

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[Turbine777 13]

I've been testing more of this the past few days. There is something definitely more than lack of video mem, etc... For instance, I can have max traffic @ KORD, KBOS, KJFK, KATL, EDDF, EGLL etc. etc. during the day and with 6 addons still have very acceptable frame rates. Even flying over any terrain in any area with GEX, UTX and REX all at near max to max settings, again no problem. However, I can do a fresh reboot, not run REX, disable most of my other add-ons, and load any decent sized airport, example KBOS, gate E7 at night or dusk and soon as I throw an interior light on (glareshield, overhead or ped) I lose something. It can be my planes textures, the service cars at the airport or interior textures, or of course and more often, a combination. I just did three flights back to back one was a 3hr which ended in night at KLAS. One 2hr, Canada CYXY, to Alaska PANC, and a 1.5hr KORD to KATL. Mostly day with some ending in dusk or as I said, KLAS ended at night. No issues with any flights. I then decided to start at night again and see if I could get lucky,,, haha nope. Same same, Reboot, load FSX, started at gate D-27 in KJFK, frame rate about 20+, went into menu and loaded cold and dark, battery on, pwr to stand by, pedistal light on then check outside,,, ba bye outside hahaha. This is not video memory sorry to say, I wish it were. That would make sense. I'm lucky to be using 1/3rd of my video mem at that point. There is something else happening here. Night is normally much better on fps in most situations, but try it. Load up KJFK @ Gate D-27. First look around outside and remember where things are, cars, planes, etc. Now go turn on an interior light,,, Now look thru the windows in VC view or outside pan. How'd ya make out?I've been experimenting with every possible setting there is as well as been testing every addon I have "individually" against the issue to try and see if it's just one bugged. I reformatted (due to other reasons), reinstalled FSX, used just it for a few hours then loaded an add, a day later (or several flights of no issues) another, etc, etc. I have definitely found some interesting things and qwerks with some addons in certain conditions and can see when I am pushing my 2gb of vid mem to its limit but nothing explains the interior light of the PMDG to the random outside issues. Well almost nothing. This may sound crazy, and I am very sure the coding of something as intense of the PMDG 744 is more than this, but it's only a observation. Years ago doing minor game programming I remember several times when I set a texture to be lit it at times cause issues with other textures. I could never figure out why since it was random. This kind of reminds me of that for two reasons. It ONLY happens in darker hours and I think it is somehow tied to the passenger lights being triggered on. I know I said it happens when you turn on an interior light, well that is part of it. If I turn on an interior light in the day nothing happens. No loss of textures, nothing. However, when an interior light is turned on at night and ONLY at night will it tell the program to also put on the passenger lights, and ONLY when those passenger lights come on do I get the missing texture issue. Perhaps an alpha channel blending problem??? No idea. But the amounts of test I am still doing absolutely show it is without a doubt, not video memory. At least not lack thereof. Maybe in allocation perhaps.To understand, here is one of the many tests I did yesteday:Test #1 PMDG light: Same as listed above. Fresh reboot, @ KJFK, D-27 at night. Just turned on an interior light, issue started.Test #2 adding more graphics and strain to FSX but with no passenger lights: Reboot, @ @ KJFK, D-27 at night. I did everything as normal this time but without turning on any interiors (thus turning on the passenger lights). After multiple times of checking different views I still had all my neighboring planes, ground crews and skins. Ok, here is the so called out of vid mem part being put to shame. At this time again, all I would have to do to (as some say) go out of 2gb of vid ram is turn on the passenger lights? hahaha. I decided to do things that would actually take video memory such as. I minimized fsx and got into ASA. I added 2 more cloud layers to the one that was already there and set vis to 50 (was at 10 in both test til now). I loaded FSPassengers and follow me (two more addons), nope no problems. Seems like my video memory is either not full or atleast in working order. So, I don't know, it seems like video ram and other resources are just fine. Unless the passenger lights take more cpu and vid mem than REX and FSP hahaha, not. I'm still trying different things when I have time. Since the reformat I have had to reload some work programs and been working on getting them out for next week so not as much time as I hoped. In some cases of my test video memory could be blamed, but not in most of them, including the one above. I've even been tracking my cpu and memory during some tests and can see how much I need a new sound card. For instance, when the stewardess comes into the cockpit (FSPassengers) and says something, cpu spikage and FSX.EXE sometimes starts to hog the memory. I've seen fsx.exe @ 1,073,388k haha. Some of my addons have logs which is great since I can see whats what, I just wish I could run them in verbose mode =_=I learned some things things about every addon I have this week though from all my experimenting. Tons of forum browsing, tips and tricks, windows tweaks. I mainly got some better setting understanding through trial and error between addons. One thing that I never changed before was Level of Detail radius. I think most of us play with Scenery complexity and autogen more than anything. I found that setting "Detail Radius" to medium I have 0 issues and at least another 10 to 20 fps at high volume, and graphical airports. The rest of my sliders can then be maxed with no issue, and guess what? No problem with the light = texure loss issue either. I lose very little eye candy which is fine, I prefer realism over candy anywho. It also matters very little when I'm flying a 747 anyway. I think we all want 1 perfect setting in FSX that we never have to change, one that works for every scenario, but that's a very bad idea, VERY BAD. I made two display settings that are great for me. Both are pretty much maxed, but the one I labeled PMDG has Detail Radius to Medium. This is only for ground and object detail at low levels and since I am usually above FL190 it is 0 loss to me, just lots of added FPS to use with REX at altitudes.The other setting is for when I'm flying low with a FSX plane. When I fly those I just load that one and everything is maxed and perrrty for low level eye candy.To summarize; I agree to where it may just be a driver issue with Nvidia, but at this point, who knows. It's hard to chose between addons, and we really don't have to. At low level flights (C172ish) I spend more time enjoying my UTX and GEX, while at high level alts I loves my REX and PMDG realism. I have spent about 20hrs this week experimenting and will continue as time permits, but think for now I am more than happy with having the two different profiles to bounce between. Less headaches :)Even when it looks bad, it can look good...Autogenerific!!! (This is my Cessna 172 when I fly low through the Bronx in NY :) Yep, those are bullet holes)http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae298/T...togenerific.jpgDanlines! I always wanted my own Airline. You can see here that with Detail Radius to Medium it still pumps out the scenery good enough for the few seconds I will be at ground level.http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae298/T...77/Danlines.jpgNormal running addons: PMDG 744x, REX2, ASA, GEX, UTX, Traffic X, Follow Me, FSPassengers, STB, A2A Redux Lights (disabled temporarily)

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[Turbine777 13]

Hey Martin, It does seem to be only at night or darker hours for me too as I said above it also seems to be tied into the passenger lights being on. Try a couple tests if you can on your box to compare with my results.1.) Try the same as you just did but Do Not turn on you panel brightnesses at all (Pedestal, overhead or glareshield), keep them off. Results should be your textures do not disappear.2.) Set your Level of Detail Radius (Scenery Tab) to medium, then try a normal flight again. either with darkness gradually coming, or set from the start. Use lights as normal.Would be nice to see if our results are the same, thanks!As a side nite: I believe the passenger lights are code modeled and not from a .dds since I have many times looked for them to play with in photoshop. I have checked the normal livery skins and the alpha channels and can't find them. In all of my texture disappearing issues, the main two factors I have tied together are the passenger lights and darkness.*Another thought to what you described, is that when you change any setting such as time it forces FSX to do a redraw. That can clear up some issues sometimes. When I had to alt+Tab or alt+enter on long flights and came back to distorted graphics I would often force a redraw by changing my "Target Frame Rate" a couple ticks and try to get it back.

[max303 2]

Hi Dan,i have tried your tips ,turning down the graphic detail radius or turning no lights on. Nothing helps. :( Only switching the daytime helps me, but this method ruins my FSAcars log.I have this issue with no other aircraft.The textures are very beautiful to look, but i also be satisfied with DXT3 Textures and no failures during my longhaul flights.It

[Kobradelta1000 0]

try the new beta drivers 195,39!!

[Turbine777 13]

Thanks Klaus, I installed them and reset nHancer. Will hopefully get to play with them later. I did check out the release notes and unfortunately don't see anything that would help us with anything to do with FSX but hopefully they will. One thing I did read in their release notes was that the Alt+Tab problem in FSX is not driver related and is a FSX/windows issue. Oh well, alt+Enter works pretty good for me.* Update to my above post. I was able to find the passenger light .dds files. I modified them for fun and saved them as DXT5 format (Maybe this will help, but I doubt it). I also changed the Alpha channel a smidge but nothing that would change anything problem wise. Anywho, have a look. I'm anxious to do some testing but have company coming over :( Just for the reason of experimentation, later I plan on converting all my files in my textures folder (PMDG-Default and a custom skin) to DXT5. Again, I doubt it will help with our issue but may play nicer with DX10 and load easier/faster.http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae298/T...7/newlights.jpghttp://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae298/T.../newlights2.jpghttp://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae298/T.../newlights3.jpgHard to see with the picture compresion from Photobucket, but they are much brighter and more colorful is the sim as are all screenshots, hehe. I also changed the yellow tint to a brighter white.

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Thanks Klaus,will try the new beta driver. When the issue with the losing textures occures again, I will try also the old 182.50 driver.Pray to the lord that will help. :( Give you a reply about my results.RegardsMartin

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how is the new driver for you guys?

[Guest Aetos1160]

Don't know if this can be helpful but I had the same kind of desappearing plane textures a few minutes into a flight with Win 7 and the latest ATI drivers. I found out that the culprit was the HDMI audio driver. Since I uninstalled it no issue :(

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

Please help me! Last night I installed Flight! Fokker 100, and afterwards (first run on FSX) I got a pmdgoptions.dll error (it couldnt find it). I tried uninstalling and reinstalling pmdg, but to no help. I uninstalled my entire fsx + accel + pmdg747 + fsuipc + fscopilot + fsinn, but now I got this problem. The skin of my 747 isnt rendering. I tried decreasing sound quality but it didnt help (I think maybe the wings started showing after I did that). I uninstalled ALL my addons so now only the addons mentioned above are in place. I tried updated directx but it didnt help.What has happened and how can I fix it? *sad*

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

Ive turned off hardware accel on my soundcard all together but it didnt make an impact on the problem.

[tfm 191]

Ive turned off hardware accel on my soundcard all together but it didnt make an impact on the problem.

I see you are using XP rather than Vista or Windows 7. In your case, therefore, it is quite likely that yours is a simple RAM depletion problem rather than anything to do with the sound. Unless you are using XP 64-bit with at least 4GB of RAM (preferably more) with Windows running the virtual memory automatically, you are quite likely to come up against occasional problems of this kind. The sound problem is (it seems) specific to Vista and Windows 7 - which is why many of us suspect that it has something to do with the way DirectX changed in Vista onwards.Tim

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

I see you are using XP rather than Vista or Windows 7. In your case, therefore, it is quite likely that yours is a simple RAM depletion problem rather than anything to do with the sound. Unless you are using XP 64-bit with at least 4GB of RAM (preferably more) with Windows running the virtual memory automatically, you are quite likely to come up against occasional problems of this kind. The sound problem is (it seems) specific to Vista and Windows 7 - which is why many of us suspect that it has something to do with the way DirectX changed in Vista onwards.Tim

What do you mean by ram depletion problem exactly?