PMDG 737 NGX: The View Forward

[Turbine777 13]

Where did they lie? I just read two pages back and see 0 promises about anything.I see 1 "We might" statement, but as most people know, things happen that get in the way of some things we would like to see happen.

[Guest realatp]

guys guys guys...they said they "might" and "at the end of the week"...they didn't state what week, so this debate will not hold up in FS Court...sorry.

[pacallen 2]

guys guys guys...they said they "might" and "at the end of the week"...they didn't state what week, so this debate will not hold up in FS Court...sorry.

I bet their boards experienced quite a jump in bandwidth consumption this week! I've been checking on and off for over a year now, but since the possibility of screenshots being released, I have been checking several times every day!

[bojote 20]

This is gonna be the coolest thing you guys have ever seen in the VC with a Track IR - in case anyone doesn't know what optical collimation is, it means that as you move your head position around in the VC, the graphics being projected onto the HUD will maintain their alignment to the horizon, runway etc. A couple of military sims like the VRS F/A-18 have this too, but I don't think anyone's done it in an airliner yet. It's insanely cool looking.

Drooling ugh.. I'm getting all wet ;)It's probably the only product I've ever considered to alternate with my LDS767 ;) and I invented the word picky ;) definitely looking forward to it.

[wildwally 0]

It's quite hilarious to read through all these post - PMDG stringing every one along like little puppets.I think it's better that they don't show the previews and focus on finishing the development. Just to give you an level to compare things at; Aerosoft has posted numerous screenshots of their airbusX and the two different threads have nearly 80 pages of people asking every little question imaginable and asking for things to be included. PMDG on the other hand gives you some rather bleak snap shots at the HUD system with nothing more, and this thread pushes 7 or 8 pages of the same thing.I'll admit I come in here once a week to find out if there has been an update as to the release date; I find it hard to believe a company doesn't have a target release date. What happened to management, budgets, timelines, etc...? If the 747-8i external model (Engines) was a taste of what's to come then I'm sure we'll get our eye candy with the NGX. My question and challenge to PMDG or any FSX programmer for that matter. Step up the level of immersion like A2A Simulations has with their Accusim products.......WOOOOOOOW!!!!! I've been a die hard 737 fanatic (hell Boeing for that matter) for a long time. PMDG 737 NG was my first add on aircraft for flightsim years ago. I remeber reading about it and all it's high tech features (ground fog - cool) in PC Aviator. I read everything i could to learn how to properly fly that aircraft and recreate the real experience. People always asked (sure you have been asked too.), do you think you can fly a real one if ever given the chance. I always asnswered YES, and last year I got to test that theory multiple times with a couple different trips to an actual 737-700 and 737-500 simulator @ a major airlines training facility. Did I meet the challenge, you better believe it; and I thank all my flight time behind the PMDG. Even when it came to start up roceedures and the FMC, model very well with the exception of a few items. Back to where I was going with this, so as you can see I'm the modern jet age type of guy - thinking props are two slow and boring (WRONG).After my first flight in one of the ACCUSIM version of A2A's equipment I was a ball of fire (new level of respect for piston engine pilots). Couple more sessions the same thing. I found out you really got to pay attention to how you push the motors and control every aspect of flight. Never before in FS did I have to worry about the ramification of abusing and overworking my engines. In FS9 get in the 737 and take off and leave the throttles maxed out, what happens? NOTHING; same in many FSX planes. Real life try the same thing, you'll be wishing you were sitting on the ground when you tried it. I have always looked at PMDG as being the industries leader - producing some of the finest equipment and setting the bar for the rest of the industry. Unless they have something up their sleeve, I think they may have been put in a cold second. And why do I say that, everyone is getting better at the visuals. Look at the Aerosoft AirbusX - Great visuals from what we've seen, their short fall is not enough under the hood in systems from the sounds of things. We all know PMDG is going to produce a well built plane with a heck of a systems, they been there done that and come home with the trophy. Can PMDG step up to the same level as A2A with their Accumsim?? Thats the real question in my opinion.Wanna be Pilot looking for total immersion.............Walter Trester

[Paul_Smith 92]

...Can PMDG step up to the same level as A2A with their Accumsim?? Thats the real question in my opinion.Walter Trester

I guess you haven't taken their JS41 for a test ride yet? Starting the engines is easy, so is turning them into molten slag piles. the difference being takes thought, care and correct procedure.

[guenseli 1,577]

I'm an A2A fan overall, but find the comparison between PMDG and A2A not fair, because you have here complete different products: an airliner and an oldtimer piston engine.For me you have AccuSim on one side, because handling these old engines was very tricky.On the other side you have a modern airliner (which systems are highly automated - most pilots won't never see a failure in their lifes), but you get much more complicated FMS navigation systems instead of the old ADF/VOR which where used by oldtimers.I think the effort developing AccuSim for engines is the same as developing FMS and airliner systems we got from PMDG.The only comparison you can make is between the J41 and an AccuSim aircraft. And even that is not fair, because the J41 is clearly stated as "low-budget" addon.Another point is, that I don't like any comparisons between developers.All give their best, their time, their money!All want our money, some more, some less, of course :( Some developers have great success with their addons, some fail due to several reasons.PMDG and A2A have success with totally different approaches...So why don't be just happy to have such a wide diversity instead of complaining and comparing?!The new technologies, faster PCs etc have brought us to a simming experience that we haven't been dreaming of ten years ago.The disadvantage is, that we all expect more and more and it would be harder and harder to serve our needs...Who, do you think, could develop a full system airliner for FS for 50 or 60

[Guest realatp]

Ok why in the hell are we comparing A2A with PMDG, Walter "step up the level" are you kidding me? Why don't you step up your wallet and go by both products because they are completely different piece of equipment, completely different markets and for completely different people. Why is it that Ryan starts a good thread with some insight into the upcoming NGX and its got to turn into a ###### PILE! This always happens, no wonder why they dont show us VC screens until there completely done (almost), some people on here just want to bash the ###### of this company for no reason.The make awesome Products, and Walter if you dont like some of the PMDG stuff, go elsewhere (there is no elsewhere for Modern Airliners). Let's just talk about the NGX and keep it nice before it gets locked.

[WestAir 2,522]

That A2A B-17, which could be compared to an airliner, actually has some pretty innovative technologies thrown into it I'd love to see done on the PMDG. But that's just an opinion. I'm not sure anyone who takes the time to come and post here actually has any problems with PMDG, their methods, or their business decisions - we just like to throw ideas into the pot every once in a while.You have to admit, with something as amazing as what they're doing, it's sort of hard not to be excited. Ken Smith

[wildwally 0]

Ok why in the hell are we comparing A2A with PMDG, Walter "step up the level" are you kidding me? Why don't you step up your wallet and go by both products because they are completely different piece of equipment, completely different markets and for completely different people. Why is it that Ryan starts a good thread with some insight into the upcoming NGX and its got to turn into a ###### PILE! This always happens, no wonder why they dont show us VC screens until there completely done (almost), some people on here just want to bash the ###### of this company for no reason.The make awesome Products, and Walter if you dont like some of the PMDG stuff, go elsewhere (there is no elsewhere for Modern Airliners). Let's just talk about the NGX and keep it nice before it gets locked.

Wow, you can always tell who reads deeper into what was actually written. I've gone back a reread what i wrote and still don't see where you drew some of your conclussions.First off nobody was bashing PMDG, I started off talking about how everyone gets a glimsp and then it turns into 20 questions and 50 million requests. I also stated that i thought it be better if they did not show previews to eliminate such reactions.

I think it's better that they don't show the previews and focus on finishing the development.

I have always looked at PMDG as being the industries leader - producing some of the finest equipment and setting the bar for the rest of the industry.

Nope no bashing there........... :( I understand the types of planes are different, anyone with a set of eyes can see that (but thanks for stating the obvious). In case you haven't had a chance to experience Accumsim - it not only models things more accurately, but it saves the state of the plane. So the next time you get into plane conditions are the same, damage levels build up, etc. Asking PMDG to step up to a new level of immersion in their products is a fair question, when you look at the whole picture. As I stated earlier I look at PMDG as being the leader in the industry, if others out there can do it and people are looking for that level why not try and offer it???I intend on buying the PMDG 737 NGX, and I'll continue to buy A2A products also and any additional product out there that catches my eye of being worthy.Walter Trester

[jonss1948 20]

mmmmmmm.......NGX. It'll look great next to all the other aircraft in my PMDG fleet.Jon

[jjohnsondawgs 0]

mmmmmmm.......NGX. It'll look great next to all the other aircraft in my PMDG fleet.

Spot on, this thread needs to get back to the positive side! It will look beautiful when it comes out, and I will gladly wait! - Jeff Johnson

[thepilot 565]

Any news about the previews?

[brantz 0]

Ok guys, I know you may be very very busy but, please, don't let us in the dark!!! ANY kind of news like, today we made a script for the light swithes, or yesterday was raining and I soaked my shoes...Please give us some newssss!!

[vscimone 16]

Ok guys, I know you may be very very busy but, please, don't let us in the dark!!! ANY kind of news like, today we made a script for the light swithes, or yesterday was raining and I soaked my shoes... Please give us some newssss!!

How about some quick pics! :( Some quick shots of the VC overhead: